December 7, 2007

A "human right" to censor others?

I should declare an interest off the top. In 2001, I was named in the Canadian Islamic Congress’s Fourth Annual Report on Anti-Islam in the Media. Under the heading “How the National Post is endangering the well-being of Canadian Muslims,” the CIC included a reference to my October 29, 2001 column. I reprint the offending passage in full, with a warning that sensitive readers may wish to, as they say, exercise discretion:

“… the massive backlash against innocent Muslims that failed to materialize...”

That would be, um, it: the only reference to Muslims in the entire piece. To deny, even in passing, that Muslims are being oppressed is, apparently, to “endanger their well-being.”

It is for this sort of exquisite sensitivity that the CIC is justly famed in newsrooms across the land. Reporters and columnists have grown used to being accused by the CIC of anti-Muslim bias, on even flimsier grounds than I was. And not only reporters. The well known spokesman for a rival Muslim organization, the Muslim Canadian Congress, resigned his post last year after the president of the CIC, Mohamed Elmasry, accused him publicly of “smearing Islam” -- a charge, essentially of apostasy, that left him fearing for his safety.`

To most of us, however, the CIC has seemed little more than a nuisance. They do not speak for Islam, and they are not the last word on the subject. They are entitled to their views, of course, but so, in a free and democratic society, are those with whom they take issue.

Or were, until recently. For of late the CIC has found a new partner in its campaigns: the state. Not content with tossing around incendiary charges of religious bias, the CIC has enlisted the force of the law to press its case. It has done so, what is more, not through any of the traditional legal means by which freedom of speech may be limited, nor with any of the legal system’s usual requirements of due process, but through a new and seemingly open-ended mechanism: the human rights commission. To be specific: the organization has launched a complaint against Maclean’s before the federal, Ontario, and British Columbia human rights commissions, alleging that an article the magazine published last year, excerpted from Mark Steyn’s book America Alone, “subjects Canadian Muslims to hatred and Islamophobia.”

The case is not without precedent. Two years ago, the president of yet another Muslim group, the Islamic Supreme Council of Canada, brought a similar complaint against the Western Standard before the Alberta Human Rights and Citizenship Commission, after the magazine published the famous “Danish cartoons,” a collection of mild satires on Islamic extremism that offended some, but by no means all, Muslims. The commission begins hearings next month.

Nor are Muslim groups the only complainants to seek the human rights commissions’ aid in suppressing speech they find offensive. Just last week, the AHRCC ruled a pastor from Red Deer, Stephen Boisson, was -- is “guilty” the word? -- of writing a letter to the editor of the local paper that said rude things about homosexuals. The chairwoman of the commission said she found “a circumstantial connection” between the letter and the beating of a gay teenager two weeks later.

That the CIC and other members of the Assocation of the Perpetually Offended should seek to express their revulsion by such means is unsurprising. There are a great many people in this country who seem to have no clue about what freedom of speech means, or why it was invented. What is astonishing is to find so many of them in the employ of the human rights commissions.

No: rather, I wish I were astonished. What’s truly astonishing is that the commissions should have been granted such powers to begin with. As Alan Borovoy, general counsel for the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, argued recently, “during the years when my colleagues and I were labouring to create such commissions, we never imagined that they might ultimately be used against freedom of speech.” To be acting as censors, he wrote, was “hardly the role we had envisioned for human rights commissions.”

Amen. Yet the commissions have been allowed to stray, far from their original purpose of preventing discrimination in employment and housing, into the nebulous world of expression. They succeeded, largely because their early targets were so odious, marginal figures who scribbled letters to the editor or left hateful messages on their answering machines: who wants to defend racists and homophobes? Emboldened, they are now going after mainstream media organizations -- Maclean’s, for heaven’s sake.

And so, rather than give the back of their hand to the CIC’s complaint, we are treated to the spectacle of not one but two human rights commissions -- Ontario’s may yet join them -- agreeing to launch inquiries. Had the CIC sought remedy under Canada’s hate speech law, as over-broad as it is, they would at least have had to persuade a prosecutor to take their case, and to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. But as it is they can tie up the magazine and its lawyers before one commission or another for months. The chill this should send through the nation’s newsrooms is obvious.

I don’t propose to get into the merits of their complaint: suffice to say I think it is baseless. The point is, I shouldn’t have to. Maclean’s shouldn’t have to. There is only one proper outcome for this affair: not merely that the CIC’s complaint should be thrown out, but that the commissions’ power to hear such cases should be removed. They have no business meddling with speech.

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42 Comments

Anonymous Anonymous:

The CIC should be cast into the same outer darkness and gnashing of teeth as the recently gutted CRTC.

8/12/07 8:03 AM  
Anonymous Herb:

For my part, I say the more nasty things published about religions -- all religions -- the better.

As for clergymen who make homophobic remarks, the ideal solution would be to allow it to be pointed out that most people who go out of their way to slam gays almost invariably have unresolved issues about their own sexuality. That would probably solve the problem. Unfortunately, the libel laws still prevent us from saying that.

8/12/07 4:17 PM  
Anonymous Herb:

...with reference to any particular person, I meant to add.

8/12/07 4:20 PM  
Anonymous Derek:

The principal reason I believe why more and more aggrieved parties are following the complaint process through the Human Rights Commissions as opposed to "normal legal channels"?

It's free.

I believe, from the point of filing a complaint, through any investigations, mediation or hearings, the costs are borne by the taxpayer (not the legal costs however for any accused party).

I think even if a complaint is determined to be frivolous or vexatious, the complaining party bears no costs.

Simple economics.

8/12/07 4:56 PM  
Blogger Ethan:

For my part, I say the more nasty things published about religions -- all religions -- the better.

Ah, the famous liberal tolerance at work. Nice.

8/12/07 6:03 PM  
Anonymous Herb:

Ah, the famous conservative propensity for jumping to wild conclusions at work. How do you know I'm a liberal?

Anyway, I'm very tolerant of religion. I think religious people have every right to believe in and propagate their beliefs, however absurd, without interference from the state, as long as they don't cause any harm to others (and harm to the delicate sensitivities of others doesn't count).

Can you find a better definition of tolerance than that?

I also believe that the corollary of that tolerance is that religions have to accept that their beliefs will be subject to withering criticism by people who aren't persuaded. A mark of a society's inability to grow up completely is that so many people believe that it's somehow not nice or impolite to say that most religious beliefs are demonstrably false or, at best, completely unverifiable. I think it derives from the fact that we were all taught to be respectful to clergymen when we were growing up. And I'm still respectful to clergymen on the personal level when I meet them, whatever their particular sect. But that doesn't mean I should be obliged to withhold my belief that their views are ridiculous.

After all, most religious people have no qualms whatsoever about loudly saying that they think my own agnostic beliefs (I'm not an atheist) are ridiculous -- or worse.

9/12/07 12:04 PM  
Anonymous stjohn:

Peace, order, and good government. Freedom?? Freedom of speech?? What freedom? Peace, order, and good government. All together now...

If you etch government on your cornerstone of values, chances are you'll get lots of it, good or otherwise.

10/12/07 1:08 AM  
Anonymous Mike Jr:

Ah, the famous conservative propensity for jumping to accurate conclusions was at work, judging from Herb's response.

I'm glad that you believe yourself to be tolerant, though I'm a little concerned that you can't mention religion without saying how dumb it is, and this makes me question how respectful you really are when in the presence of clergy. And your solution to anti-homosexual speech is, by your own admission, libel.

As for clergymen being sexually confused, does that go for Tommy Douglas?

"We ought to recognize (homosexuality) for what it is, it's a mental illness, it's a psychiatric condition which ought to be treated..."

http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-73-538-2674/politics_economy/omnibus/clip3

Ah, the loony left. Gotta love 'em. CBC's "Greatest Canadian" seems about as tolerant of homosexuals as Herb is about those wacky God-fearing individuals whose beliefs provided the moral foundations on which our present society is built.

Oh, and good point Derek, but we shouldn't make people pay for human rights, unless the Commission deems their complaint to be frivolous. Like this one.

10/12/07 7:03 PM  
Blogger r a:

This all illustrates a point made repeatedly by Mark Steyn: that Islamists, while rejecting the philosophical foundations of Western society, are all too adept at exploiting its weaknesses. From milking welfare to agitating against racial profiling by the security services to attempting to intimidate their critics by human rights litigation, they show a sharp eye for all the flaws of modern democracies.

That the notion of "human rights" tribunals controlling free expression is a bad idea is manifestly proved by the type of exploitation the CIC is trying to perpetrate. But it is a deeply, fundamentally repugnant idea anyway. Anyone who concedes that a tribunal of lawyers and activists should decide what they can or cannot say is already living on their knees.

10/12/07 8:18 PM  
Anonymous Ace:

Deport or execute Elmsary and the rest of these Al-Qaeda Muzzie sympathizers.

Since they execute Christian missionaries in their country, I say we execute Muzzie s**t-disturbers in our own country until they change their laws in their country or convert. This is OUR country and there should be NO reasonable accomodation of people who are unreasonable towards us tolerant Canadians. We should intolerant towards those who are intolerant of a value like free speech.

This goes for Liberal and NDP supporters as well who support hate speech legislation.

Or better yet, have the Americans deal w/ the 3rd world Muzzie scum in Gitmo. Liberate us from Islam now or the future will be wearing a burka...

10/12/07 10:59 PM  
Anonymous stjohn:

Full moon come early?

11/12/07 12:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous:

Point of clarification: what is the CIC's involvement in the CHRC complaint launched against Maclean's? From the reports I've read it was launched by 4 law students acting independently; if anyone has a link with more information I'd genuinely appreciate it because I can't find a link between the CIC and the complaint.

11/12/07 10:29 AM  
Anonymous Derek:

Ace,

When did you lose the other 51 cards from the deck?

11/12/07 10:30 AM  
Anonymous Derek:

if anyone has a link with more information I'd genuinely appreciate it because I can't find a link between the CIC and the complaint.

http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20071130_111821_7448

11/12/07 10:41 AM  
Blogger FDuquette:

A Muslim friend explained to me Koranic prophesy on the many ages to come since being written; apparently, the age Islam is living through now is an age of dictators, of Muslim oppressing Muslim (amoung others).
Hence one can argue whether this depiction of oppressed Muslims is actionable; what other revelations are actionable? One doubts whether believers would support such a view. The CIC will learn as we all do: sooner or later, these agencies will be coming after you.

11/12/07 10:59 AM  
Blogger Justin Socie:

It has done so, what is more, not through any of the traditional legal means by which freedom of speech may be limited, nor with any of the legal system’s usual requirements of due process, but through a new and seemingly open-ended mechanism: the human rights commission

Human Rights tribunals are administrative law tribunals that are bound by the legal system's requirements of due process. It should also be noted that any of their decisions can be appealed through the courts, all the way up to the Supreme Court of Canada.

And Human Rights Commissions are only "new" mechanisms in the way that any other 46 year-old mechanism can be considered to be new.

11/12/07 4:31 PM  
Anonymous Herb:

MikeJr. wrote:

As for clergymen being sexually confused, does that go for Tommy Douglas?

"We ought to recognize (homosexuality) for what it is, it's a mental illness, it's a psychiatric condition which ought to be treated..."


Hey, just because he invented Medicare, that doesn't mean he was right about everything.

But seriously.....It's not fair to compare something someone said about homosexuality 30 or 40 years ago to contemporary views. Tommy isn't around to tell us if he would say the same thing today, and for that matter neither is Sigmund Freud.

As for your attacks on my views of toleration, you're the one who seems to be confusing toleration with uncritical acceptance. Read Mill, Milton and Locke again (or for the first time): tolerance for the views of others doesn't preclude attacking those views vigorously if you believe them to be wrong.

11/12/07 5:44 PM  
Anonymous JR:

Justin:

HRT decisions cannot be appealed, but they are subject to judicial review.

The problem with HRTs and public speech is that the defendant does not have the right to elect trial by jury. Juries have always been the bulwark against censorship. This is acknowledged by legislatures across common law Canada, which have abolished the right to trial by jury in many civil actions, but unfailingly preserved this right in actions for libel and slander.

11/12/07 6:55 PM  
Anonymous Mike Jr:

"tolerance for the views of others doesn't preclude attacking those views vigorously if you believe them to be wrong."

It's not uncritical acceptance. If it were, us wacky Protestants would be...Blind Acceptantists?

In the end we probably agree that tolerance of religion must come with tolerance of expression. It's just your first post that annoyed me, which seemed overly hostile to religion.

And though it's a completely empty compliment, I think you're more tolerant than Ace.

11/12/07 8:13 PM  
Anonymous Mike Jr:

Well, I clearly cut the wrong half of the quote.

D'oh.

11/12/07 8:15 PM  
Anonymous Herb:

MikeJr: Make no mistake, I am hostile to religion (though I'm not quite an atheist). It seems to me that the world is full of people who use a veneer of religiosity to hide psychotic desires to make others miserable, from priests who molest children to Islamist fanatics who sanction murder in the name of "faith". Like more and more people I'm sick of it. I won't tell others they can't practise their faiths -- that wouldf be intolerant after all -- but I refuse to buy into some outdated notion that religions should be immune from criticism just because there's some namby pamby social convention against criticising religion.

Those of you who are believers should devote less attention to fighting people like me and more attention to dealing with the lunactics out there of all faiths who are giving you a bad name. Just my opinion.

11/12/07 11:22 PM  
Anonymous Herb:

Sorry about the typos. That's what I get for posting after two pints.

11/12/07 11:24 PM  
Anonymous Ace:

Derek, I would say you're the one that's short of a deck if you're not outraged by the presence of medieval-style Islam and their liberal apologists (NDP advocate sharia law - see Marion Boyd) in our cities.

When I read stories like this, it confirms my suspicion that Islam is backward and wrong.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22204779/

Derek, you're clearly don't understand the nature of the threat our society faces from Islamic terrorism. You should read up on the views of Pim Fortuyn, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and home-grown Canadian writer Irshad Manji:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irshad_Manji

12/12/07 2:07 AM  
Anonymous Derek:

I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me your earlier rant is much closer to this definition of hate speech than the subject matter of this blog:

Hate speech is a term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a person or group of people based on their race, gender, age, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, language ability, moral or political views, socioeconomic class, occupation or appearance (such as height, weight, and hair color), mental capacity and any other distinction-liability. The term covers written as well as oral communication and some forms of behaviors in a public setting. It is also sometimes called antilocution and is the first point on Allport's scale which measures prejudice in a society.
...
In Canada, advocating genocide or inciting hatred against any 'identifiable group' is an indictable offense under the Canadian Criminal Code with maximum terms of two to fourteen years. An 'identifiable group' is defined as 'any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.' It makes exceptions for cases of statements of truth, and subjects of public debate and religious doctrine. The landmark judicial decision on the constitutionality of this law was R. v. Keegstra (1990).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech

Being outraged is one thing.

I doubt you would repeat what you had earlier written in a forum where you don't receive the anonymity most of us enjoy on this site.

12/12/07 8:13 AM  
Anonymous Mike Jr:

"Those of you who are believers should devote less attention to fighting people like me and more attention to dealing with the lunactics out there of all faiths who are giving you a bad name."

Hey Herb, perhaps if you look one post below your last one, you'll see why I don't like open hostility towards religion. Surely there's some distinction between me, Tom Cruise and Osama.

You're free to question beliefs, but when you lump religious people with terrorists and pedophiles because we believe in God (or claim to), you're argument is logically unsound and venturing into Ace's territory.

12/12/07 5:08 PM  
Anonymous Ace:

"I doubt you would repeat what you had earlier written in a forum where you don't receive the anonymity most of us enjoy on this site."

Derek, I think you finally understand why hate speech is such an awful piece of legislation. 2-14 yrs for a rant? In a supposedly free country? This is why people who speak the truth need to hide an anonymity.

The only offending sentence for a lawyer would be: "Deport or execute Elmsary and the rest of these Al-Qaeda Muzzie sympathizers" which could be construed as a death threat. But it is not hate speech as it is attacking a group "Elmasry and Al-Qaeda" and it is placed in context of oppressive laws in Muslim countries as a pure hypothetical.

12/12/07 5:29 PM  
Anonymous Herb:

Mike Jr:

I don't "lump religious people with terrorists and pedophiles because they believe in God (or claim to)," but I do wonder why so many religious people seem to think that the avowal of religious beliefs excuses -- you'll pardon the expression -- all sins.

Just today there was yet another example in the papers: David Radler trying to convince the judge to approve his sentencing deal on the basis that he goes to synagogue every week. Blecch.

12/12/07 6:31 PM  
Anonymous Mike Jr:

Herb:
Ah, so it's not religion that's the problem; it's a select group of people who hide behind it, or are trying to use it to their own advantage.

Ace:
Free country? Hahahahahahahah!!!
Try reading some of the Charter columns AC has done over the years. The thing begins AND ends with loopholes. (Ignoring the preamble and the clause naming the Charter.)

12/12/07 8:23 PM  
Blogger Elle:

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14/12/07 1:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous:

Doug Collins. Doug Collins. Doug Collins.

Why are no defenders of Mark Steyn and free speech citing the Collins precedent?

You know, Doug Collins -- the Holocaust denier who was found guilty by the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal in 1999 of inciting "hatred and contempt" against Jews with his column in the North Shore News. (The same Tribunal that will be hearing the Steyn case).

Why has this gone down the memory hole?

But I guess citing the "chilling effect" on the speech of neo-Nazis in Canada doesn't fit the scheme, does it.

19/12/07 10:13 PM  
Anonymous Derek:

Rex Murphy weighs in on this issue here (transcript and/or video).

4/1/08 3:35 PM  
Anonymous Derek:

Bizarro News Sunday

I was watching the news on CBC when a story ran about “discrimination” against Canadian female ski jumpers. Apparently, the IOC had determined in November 2006 that the sport of female ski jumping is not sufficiently developed internationally to be included in the Vancouver 2010 Olympics, but may qualify for 2014 if it holds world championships etc. The story caught my attention because, naturally, this warranted a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission.

So, I did a little digging. As it turns out, a complaint was indeed filed with the CHRC in early 2006 by “Jan Willis, mother of 15-year-old Katie Willis, Canada's top female ski-jumper and ranked sixth in the world” as reported Feb 5, 2007 in this G&M article Female ski jumpers launch official complaint .

Now, you would think at first blush that since the decision rests with the IOC, filing a complaint in Canada would be dismissed due to lack of jurisdiction, never mind the frivolous nature of the complaint. Not so. Not only was the complaint received, it apparently went all the way to a full hearing, according to today’s CTV report.

In September, the Canadian Human Rights Commission heard a complaint filed by a group of female ski jumpers, who claimed the Olympic movement was discriminating against them. The Commission's decision is expected soon.

Bizarre.

Which made me more curious about the complainant and the taxpayer money she has wasted to date to get her kid onto the Olympic podium through the CHRC (including the separate legal fees that those named public institutions were forced to pay to respond). Apparently her own legal expenses are not a problem as she has hired “Nina Reid, who is counsel to Ms. Willis and the other female members of Canada's nine-member national ski-jumping team: Atsuko Tanaka, 14, Nata DeLeeuw, 15, and Zoya Lynch, 15” according to the G&M article.

And where do all of these teenie leaping lizards reside? Sure enough, booming Calgary, home of the 1988 Olympics.

Which made me wonder. What about the human rights of all of the tweenies and teenies in Canada who don’t live in Calgary, and whose parents don’t have the financial means to support this evolving sport – equipment, training, travel, frivolus legal filings etc?

Maybe someone should file a complaint with the CHRC and force the Fed Gov’t to build similar facilities across Canada, and fund their Olympic dreams as well.

Or better still, what about the lack of Men’s Synchronized swimming in the Summer Olympics? Surely this warrants a human rights complaint.

Maybe to illustrate the absurdity of these CHRC proceedings, Maclean’s could put together a twosome, have them go for a few dips at the local Y for practice, and file a similar CHRC complaint.

Wells is away in Paris, so he’s scratched from the team – but how about picking up a couple of Speedos for Feschuk and Steyn?

Now that would be entertaining - and their inside media coverage of the CHRC complaint process, as it drags on over months, from filing all the way to the formal hearing, would perhaps be a form of poetic justice…

And good copy.

6/1/08 6:13 PM  
Anonymous Derek:

The long form of the links which I couldn't get to work in html code:

G&M:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070205.BCOLYMPICS05/TPStory/National

CTV:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080105/ski_jump_080105/20080106?hub=CTVNewsAt11

6/1/08 6:30 PM  
Blogger Karen:

The other side of the...coin:

Mike Duffy Live: Khurrum Awan, Osgoode Hall Law School graduate
Students file human rights complaints against Macleans
January 31, 2008:

http://lawiscool.com/2008/02/01/more-macleans-resources/

Articles by one of the complainants:

http://lawiscool.com/case-study-cic-v-macleans/

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28/2/09 12:52 AM  
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